cliff. it is not bothering stocks yet. it will soon but as of today it is not. instead it was the rather poor i scht m number that came out, lowest since july 2009. just off the lows for the day. i think the important thing is if you look at sectors here, transports, materials, all the risk-on trades, industrials, all to the downside. getting a modest up side from technology stocks as dell got an upgrade today. >>> finally i just want to point out, another day gold is up, gold stocks are to the downside. this has been going on for a long time. take a look here. there's gold for the year. there's gold stocks. look at this underperformance for gold stocks. this has been happening because people more and more are putting money when they want to be in gold and inflation into the gold directly rather than the gold stocks. again this has been a trend for a while now and it is accentuated. general motors, even though numbers were a little bit disappointing, remember truck sales a little disappoints